I can't even imagine....Or its closely related cousins:
You're so strong.*And on and on.
I don't know how you do it.
You're handling it so better than I think I would.**
If anyone can get through this, you can.**
Some of those statements royally pissed me off at the time I was told them (you can guess which ones...yes, the ones with the double asterisks). Gee, thanks for shifting all responsibility for my state of mind to *ME*. Wow. As if I didn't already have enough to deal with as it is. Thanks. Fortunately for the person who would have been saying it, I never got the seeing-red flavor of God doesn't give us more than we can handle. I would have ripped someone's head off if they'd said that particular gem to me. I was pretty fucking angry at God, thank you very much, so it only would have added fuel to the fire.
You're so strong was a weird one for me to react to. I was strong because I was able to take a shower, get dressed, and put on makeup before going to an appointment that had been scheduled for weeks? I was strong because I was taking care of details and arrangements that absolutely had to be made? I was strong because I was taking care of my daughter? Because I was still alive each day? Trust me, if I'd had any influence over the matter in those first four or five months, I would have happily chosen to be as dead as Charley. I didn't want to be dead so much as I simply wanted to be with him, didn't want to have to be doing all of this on my own now, never getting to see him again.
Was I "strong"? I had no choice in the matter. Like my wonderfully insightful friend Alicia has said before (like here), I didn't feel like I was being strong, because it's what was expected of me--what Charley would have expected, and moreover, what I expected for myself.
But after five years of living through this nightmare and reflecting on it all, I guess I can allow that I probably was stronger than I gave myself credit for. Because I did have a choice, even if it didn't feel like it. I could have become a raging alcoholic or crackhead, or I could have lost my child to Protective Services. Or more likely, I could have stayed huddled on my couch, depressed, angry, and waiting to die every week.
But I got an email this morning that got me thinking. This person didn't say these words exactly, but I can't imagine was what floated through my head after reading it, the undertone wafting between words that actually were written.
I never really know how to respond when I'm told I can't imagine. Unlike some of the other commonly uttered phrases (like what I wrote at the start of this post), I can't imagine isn't one that angers me. But it still sort of baffles me, because here's the thing..
I can't really imagine it either.Every now and then the sheer unbelievability of what happened to Charley, to me, still strikes me. I don't fight the disbelief anymore, but I'm still stopped in my tracks sometimes, even if only for a split second, that this--this horrible, awful thing--really did happen...and it happened to me. (And that it's still a part of my life too.)
I can't imagine much of what happened to me in the last five years, because if it had been a movie or a book, an editor would have forced the writer to remove plot lines, simplify things, because there's no way that the entire story line could be plausible. I lived through the last five years, but there's much of it that I don't really remember anymore. I can factually recall things, events, my reactions to things, but the surge of emotions are mostly just words now. I remember talking to one of my widowed friends about a year or so after Charley died and asking her how she survived the first year or two after her husband died/disappeared and his body was never found. At that point she was probably four years out from her husband's death, and she told me she couldn't really remember. I was baffled how she could have forgotten, couldn't remember.
But it's true. Much of that first year or two for me is wrapped in a thick, disorienting fog. It's not entirely unlike how you can't remember more than bits and flashes of things after a night of super heavy drinking and drunkenness. I can remember snatches of what happened, or else I can read my journal or be reminded of things by friends, but I'm never really sure what's real sometimes. Even though I also know that it all was real.
So yes. I can't even imagine it either. Even now...and even though it happened to me....
This is a truly powerful post CCW! The Widow Brain thing (as I call it) is so real. I have tried to joke about it with myself calling myself senile woman (imagine me with a superman t-shirt on) There is nothing I cannot forget. It is so real, the loss of time and memory.
ReplyDeleteAnd the platitudes you double ** get me too, right where the blood boils. They seem to be stand bys for people to say, and I want to cut my tongue out thinking I might have ever said them myself.
Will be sharing this post with the friends on my widow page. <3
Such a great post! I agree with the **
ReplyDeleteAfter my sister died and left 4 little ones behind I had a few that said "God must've needed her" can you believe that...I'm smiling as I'm typing this but wasn't at the times.
I have also had alot of people say the same things after we lost our four yr old daughter....also that I found I had to console them alot instead of the other way around.
Your post today has made me smile and nod and shake my head...I can relate to you so much....the 1st 2 years of our other child's life are just a fog as they were after our first daugter died and I have guilt for that but I think I survived the best way I could back then.
Thank you for always being so honest and entertaining in your writing!
Love
Diana x
I'm with you. I still sit in awe sometimes 2 years out and think "Did that really happen?" "Was I really married?" "Was Roger even real?"
ReplyDeleteBut like you it is for a split second.
I could have written this exact post. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThat's it exactly! I can't imagine it either! It made me smile in recognition of a feeling I hadn't been able to define. After 5 years on the widow road it seems impossible that we're not 'over' it. We've accepted it, we're living it, we're choosing to live it responsibly and are parenting well. But imagine it? Nah-uh. If I stop to do that I might stop putting one foot in front of the other and be overwhelmed in sadness for my children. Best to just get on with it really.
ReplyDeleteThank you, I now know how to respond to "I can't imagine".
Odd girl out here.
ReplyDeleteI used to say, "I can't imagine" and other such nonsense. But now ... well, I can imagine. When people say things like "this can't get any worse" or "I can't imagine any situation in which I would [fill in the blank with whatever horrible-outrageous-immoral act you want]," I tend to be very quiet.
It's all too easy for me to imagine. And I don't have to try very hard to think of ways in which things could be worse. Or situations in which I would ... whatever.
I like to think that the worst possible thing has happened. But I know that it hasn't. I know that -- as hard as it may be for others to imagine -- Nick's death could have been far worse than it was and that far worse things can still happen.
When people say to me that they can't imagine, my response has always been to shake my head and say, "No, you can't. And you really don't want to."
@Alicia: Good point(s). I agree with all you said too, as well what I originally wrote. (Can I be even more schizophrenic? ;o))
ReplyDeleteI've found I can imagine all sorts of things now...and they're almost always really, really horrible and awful. Like with the dog. I knew (imagined?) that something really bad could--and would--happen when my parents took the dog camping last year. But I didn't/couldn't imagine exactly the scenario that ended up actually happening.
So yes, it's way too easy for me to easily imagine other situations too, as well as ways that things could always be or would have been worse. (Funny thing, though--I often can't imagine how things could be better. Guess I'm just a pessimist these days? Or would that be a realist? Or just cynical?)
But if I ever gave a response more than my usual shrug to the I can't imagine gambit, it probably still would be, "I can't imagine it either." Which is probably just a translation for: "Yeah, I still can't believe it either."
PotAYto, potAHto. ;o)
This is a GREAT POST and I am going to share it with others. You have hit the nail on the head.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking just yesterday, the reason why someone who hasn't lived through the loss can't imagine how horrible it really is, is that the biggest thing that is UNIMAGINABLE is the REALITY of the unbelievable situation. Trying to imagine yourself in that position CANNOT include the feelings of REAL-ness that are so much a part of the horror we are forced to go through.
Thank you for this eloquent post.
XOXO
Reading this makes you realize you really are not alone. 'I can't imagine' it's seven years on Saturday since I lost the love of my life, and even now at times I have to pull myself up, and think, 'Did this REALLY happen to me'?
ReplyDelete'He's in a better place' was one of the platitudes I couldn't stand, where would be a better place than here with us who loved him, and he loved back, he always hated being away from home, so why would being away from us be better?
I'm not a big fan of these quips. "I wouldn't have been able to handle it in the way you have". My general retort has always been, that's nonsense as none of us can really predict shit like this, plus I do what I do, handle things in the way I am programmed, praise for that is misplaced.
ReplyDeleteLook at me and my mini rant, and I only popped in for a perv ;-)
Yep. The first 18 months were a blur for me, and the next 18 are still a bit hazy, and I count that as a blessing. I've burned the journals, and try not to go back there in my head. It's too, too painful.
ReplyDeleteYou WERE strong, even if all you did was get up and get dressed. I thought I deserved a fucking parade for being upright, clean, and clothed. It took everything I had in those early days. We could've given up, abdicated life. We didn't. We were strong.
I imagine all kinds of strange, morbid, shit these days. But still, there are some things I can't imagine, because I refuse to.
I think you've been inside my head, eloquently blogging my thoughts while someone is telling me that I'm strong or that they "couldn't" cope (*I* can't cope, I just keep living moment by moment and yes, I've made it this far, but I hate the assumption that I'm "coping").
ReplyDeleteSuch a good point. As a young widow myself, I hadn't yet really been able to put this to words, but it's so true. I can't imagine it, either.
ReplyDeleteI hate the strong/brave comments as well, it seems to me like that's a choice, and this is not really a choice that I made.
I enjoyed stopping by your blog.
I did a whole post on "God only give you what you can handle." I seriously want to punch someone in the face when they say that. In the book Comfort Food the main character tell someone, "that's a shitty thing people say to make themselves feel better." I've stolen that line more than once.
ReplyDeleteOh and Lynn--I also did a whole post dedicated to the "better place" comments, too.
ReplyDeleteHave to be the bad guy...I used to read your post ALL THE TIME....can you start writing some psoitive stuff..the widow thing gets kind of old after 5 years...you are young! Seriously..you are a downer.. Bunch of widow blogs I started reading with yours and everyone else at least writes about moving on. You are stuck.
ReplyDeleteCaroline, I don't know who you are, because your profile doesn't link to a blog. So I have to ask, Who the hell are YOU to post a comment like that?
ReplyDeleteAre you a mother? Candice is raising a beautiful daughter all by herself. Every day that she looks at her daughter's face, she sees her husband, who was ripped brutally from their lives. At every stage of her development, that little girl will have to process her daddy's death all over again -- over and over again for the next 15 to 20 to 25 years -- and will have to talk about him, will have to ask questions about him. And Candice will be there for her.
Do you work? Do you have a job that guarantees you a paycheck? Candice is starting her own business. She is setting out in troubled economic times and investing herself in a venture that may crash and burn.
Are you talented? Do you have any artistic gifts? Candice is taking her eye with the camera and her gift for portraiture and offering it out to be critiqued and rejected. She is exposing her art and her SELF to criticism and rejection.
I'm not even going to ask if you're a widow, because no widow would ever complain that another was being a downer, and that "the widow thing was getting kind of old" -- even after 5 years. Trust me when I say that Candi's blog is NOT a downer. She may write about widowhood and grief and loss, but she writes with more dignity and strength and self-awareness than a whole "bunch of widow blogs" that I read. She doesn't fill the pages with inspirational quotes and wishful thinking; rather, she writes with introspection and integrity.
She is NOT stuck. If you read her blog with half the depth that she writes with, you would see how profoundly she is "moving on." She may not use those words, she may not SAY that she's moving on to a new man, new life, new this that and the other. But every word of this blog is testament to Candi's journey, bears witness to her fierce determination to honor the life she and Charley had, even as she builds a new life for her daughter and herself.
When I first read your comment, "Caroline," I laughed and thought how ridiculous it was. But then I got angry that your words were just going to sit here. I don't know who you are, but I do know that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Caroline is one of those people who think bloggers are living their lives and sharing them strictly for her entertainment, rather than, you know, living their lives like real human beings. Caroline, if you want to be entertained, go to Cute Overload and stay away from personal blogs. Then you won't have to deal with any real people, and their real feelings about their real lives. I know that's icky for you. Go away now.
ReplyDeleteAlicia, extremely well said. I've been reading this blog for awhile and am always extremely touched by the honesty and wisdom expressed... My first reaction to Caroline's comments came out of my mouth sounding much like "duck ewe!!" -- but then I got to your reply and I like what you said better :) At least it cleared the profanity filter! I'm angered by her obvious ignorance of what it's like to be a widow and agree, she has NO idea what she's talking about.
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